Sloan for Mayor: in support of pussification of and detesteronizing Key West’s city government; plus yet another Florida Keys County Commissioner George Neugent constituent relations seminar

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Duval Street panhandler and St. Mary’s soup kitchen daily meal

In today’s Key West Citizen – www.keysnews.com:

Sheriff, Cates agree: KOTS to Easter Seals lot
BY GWEN FILOSA Citizen Staff
gfilosa@keysnews.com

Sheriff Rick Ramsay has offered the city the property beneath the homeless shelter as a location for an assisted living center, and the mayor has agreed to the plan.

The city could move the Keys Overnight Temporary Shelter (KOTS) to the old Easter Seals lot on College Road to make way for the assisted living center, Mayor Craig Cates said Tuesday.

“I’ve talked to two commissioners that are supportive of it, George Neugent and David Rice,” said Cates on Tuesday. “They meet tomorrow.”

In turn, only the city commission can make the decision to move KOTS, Cates acknowledged.

The sheriff’s initiative last week to speak separately with Cates and county Commissioners Rice and Neugent followed his plea to Keys leaders to unburden him of homeless shelter duty.

“I’m trying to run a multimillion dollar business,” Ramsay told county and city leaders at a homeless summit held at the Harvey Government Center.

After the meeting, Ramsay said nothing had changed, so he started making calls with his own proposed solution.

Ramsay said he spoke individually with Cates and the county leaders to avoid breaking the state Sunshine Law, which requires any discussion of pending government decisions to stay out in public.

“It may solve two of the top priorities for the city and everybody may walk away happy,” he said this week. “This isn’t for the sheriff’s office to decide. We’re saying the sheriff’s office is not the appropriate place for the long-term solution to this.”

Cates is optimistic that Florida Keys leaders will support the assisted living location along with the KOTS move.

“Hopefully, we’ll all agree and move forward,” the mayor said Tuesday in advance of the city commission’s meeting.

KOTS has been located on the sheriff’s office’s property since it was built in 2004. The city agreed to move KOTS in order to settle a lawsuit from Sunset Marina condo owners, who asked the courts to force the shelter away from the upscale gated community.

But city commissioners haven’t made any decisions about a new home for KOTS. Their only consensus was to move the overnight shelter to the Department of Juvenile Justice building next to the county jail.

Ramsay says his department has carried the burden of work in overseeing the shelter, which holds up to 140 people a night. The property gets trashed with litter, along with a stretch of College Road, and homeless people are often found sleeping or loitering on the property long after the shelter empties out every morning, Ramsay said.

gfilosa@keysnews.com

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For the life of me, I cannot imagine why Gwen Filosa and the Citizen have not reported what I said during citizen comments at last week’s city-county homeless summit about what the city killing the Sheriff financially by putting the city’s homeless drunks in his jail, and my recommendation that the city create its own overnight drunk tank and take that financial burden off the Sheriff, and off the hospital as well, as that’s where some city homeless drunks end up. I also cannot imagine why Gwen Filosa and the Citizen have not reported County Commissioner David Rice’s later comments at the homeless summit, that mixing homeless drunks with homeless trying to turn their lives around does not work, and he liked my comments about a homeless drunk tank and will look into applying the Marchman Act to drunk homeless people, take them out of circulation for 8 hours, as an alternative to putting them in jail as criminals for an extended period of time.

David RiceRice

Rice, a psychologist, who once ran the three Guidance Clinics of the Keys, which offer detox and rehab services, is an expert in recovery. The only such expert in the county government, as far as I know. There is no such expert in the city government, as far as I know. An expert :-) spoke to the Key West City Commission last night, during what turned out to be quite a shoot-out at times.

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Another article in the Citizen today (farther down below) is a mere snippet from last night’s city commission meeting, which adjourned a little after midnight, before the Commission could reconvene as the Land Authority and consider renewing leases on city land, on piece rented to Florida Keys Outreach Coalition, which gives down and out people a chance to turn their lives, and the architect’s fee of over $1,000,000 for maybe half, I guestimate, of the design and oversight of the construction of the new Truman Waterfront Park. Representatives for those three items sat there all night, and were apologetically told by Mayor Cates that they would have to come back another time.

Some reasons for why the commission meeting took so long are reported in the Citizen article below. However, their not getting to the architect’s fee left me feeling that was a SIGN FROM ABOVE that the city is not ready to take that step, because the Truman Waterfront park will not generate any revenue, so it will have to be a pay park, paid for by city taxpayers, which City Commissioner Billy Wardlow said last night,

Billy Wardlow

which I seconded during closing citizen comments.

Yaniz tells mayor to ‘man up’
Tension among several commissioner spills over at Old City Hall
BY GWEN FILOSA Citizen Staff
gfilosa@keysnews.com
Citizen Staff

Craig CatesTony Yaniz

Cates, left, Yaniz, right

Standing toe-to-toe on a corner of the dais at Old City Hall, Mayor Craig Cates and Commissioner Tony Yaniz traded heated words Tuesday night during a recess called by Cates when the two clashed over Robert’s Rules of Order.

“I wish you’d just run against me,” Cates said to Yaniz, both planted steps away from where reporters were monitoring the meeting.

“Why don’t you man up?” Yaniz replied, motioning for the two men to go outside to continue the exchange.

They didn’t.

When the meeting resumed, Cates announced that all seven commissioners must follow Robert’s Rules of Order: Everyone gets two turns to talk for a total of five minutes. No interrupting and no responding to each other’s statements.

Cates, who is up for re-election this fall, has only drawn one challenger so far — Sloan Bashinsky, a blogger who has said angels advise him and calls himself a representative for all homeless people.

Right here in the article, would have been a wonderful time for Filosa and the Citizen to report that Cates blew a fuse last night over people saying he was trying to steer where the new homeless shelter would be, he was not doing that, which he clearly was doing, when he suggested putting a new senior living facility on the Sheriff’s land, which would remove that facility from contention for the Easter Seals property, where the Mayor and other city officials and county officials had said the week before looked like the best place for a new homeless shelter.

And, this would have been a great place in the article for Filosa and the Citizen to report what I said during citizen comments last night re the City Commission approving the renewal its version of the interlocal agreement with the County Commission for joint city-county efforts re dealing with homeless people. I said the only sane place to put a new homeless shelter was on the Sheriff’s land. I had been homeless in Key West, I had lived on the street, stayed in shelters. Having the new shelter on the Sheriff’s land would be safer for homeless people and for everyone else, too. Some homeless people are truly dangerous, others are insane, others are drunks or otherwise addicted. The city has not offered the Sheriff any incentive. The city putting its drunk homeless people into the Sheriff’s jail is financially killing him, and the hospital when they end up there. The city has to offer the sheriff incentive. The bait is for the city to stop sending its homeless addicts to the Sheriff’s jail. Give him a reason to want to help the city. The large audience burst into applause.

But Yaniz has spent the past several months telling anyone who will listen that he could beat Cates in a mayoral run, which would require the first-term elected official to bow out before his tenure as a commissioner is up.

So far, Yaniz hasn’t filed any paperwork with the state indicating he will run. But on Monday night, the political rivalry emerged in public — right on the dais.

The two have argued plenty of times before, including one exchange in which Yaniz told Cates to leave political office, the mayor has said.

But in public, both have maintained a veneer of civility.

Last year at the end of one meeting, Yaniz presented the mayor, who for years raced cars and boats, with a racing team’s hat from some big event.

“Is there a target on it?” Cates said, laughing.

After the hat gift, Yaniz asked a few people whether his gift appeared sincere. It was, Yaniz repeated.

The Cates/Yaniz bout at Tuesday’s meeting originated with Yaniz complaining that the mayor allows other commissioners to talk out of turn, but when Yaniz has done it, “I get called on the carpet.”

Cates said, “I’m sorry you don’t understand” the rules of order.

Yaniz responded in kind. That’s when Cates called for a recess and stood up. He walked toward Yaniz, who sits at the edge of the dais which is the shortest path between the mayor’s chair and a private office.

Cates exchanged some words, starting with the “run against me” line.

During the break, Yaniz asked me what I thought of his and Cates’ exchange. I said, if the Mayor says something to a city commissioner, the commissioner has a right to respond. If an elected official says something to a citizen in the audience, the person in the citizen has a right to respond. I had enforced that several times in county commission meetings, on behalf of citizens who were addressed by county commissioners and wanted to respond, but were not allowed to do so, and were allowed to do so after I called for point of order in their behalf. David Rice once came to me during a break in a county commission meeting and said he agreed with me on that point of order.

Yaniz, who likes to speak about several items at each commission meeting — Monday night, Yaniz led the crowd to cheer the Rotary for its humanitarian work — quickly answered. No one intervened as the two spent a minute or two arguing.

Once reassembled, before a large crowd gathered in part for the proposed changes to the city’s noise ordinance, the two appeared to have settled down.

The meeting was a rare event at 510 Greene St.: Commissioners arguing with each other in plain view and two blasting City Manager Bob Vitas over items being brought to the panel’s attention at the last minute.

Case in point: The city’s lease with the Cultural Preservation Society, which puts on the famous nightly sunset celebration at Mallory Square, is about to expire.

Vitas brought it up Monday at the beginning of the meeting. Nothing was on the agenda, and no email sent prior to the meeting mentioned the fact, commissioners said.

“No disrespect, Mr. Vitas, but you’re the man in charge,” Yaniz said. “We should have started negotiations six months ago.”

Rossi told Vitas, “I am sick and tired of this. To walk into this blind-eyed today, not to know anything about it, has me so irate. There’s children in the room, so I won’t say anything else.”

Cates said, “It’s going to be a long night,” to which Rossi agreed.

It was one of many moments of tension in the meeting.

Before calling the cool-down recess, Cates lost his temper over critics he said are trying to pin the homeless shelter process on him.

“I don’t care if you don’t build a shelter,” Cates said, without raising his voice. “Quit bashing me. Everything has become political. We can’t even help the SPCA” without the homeless shelter coming up.”

That item, the Florida Keys SPCA getting an acre off College Road to eventually build a new center, was approved by a 7-0 vote.

Tuesday’s meeting drew an unusually large audience with several people standing against the walls. Audience members in the third row said they heard Cates and Yaniz tangle during the recess.

Even Commissioners Clayton Lopez and Teri Johnston argued at one point over the proposal for the city to take over the ambulance services, which passed 6-1. Yaniz dissented.

Earlier, Johnston pointedly disagreed with Yaniz over the homeless shelter relocation. The city needs a site first and then can draw up plans, she said.

The commission directed city staff to meet with Sheriff Rick Ramsay to discuss the possibility of moving the overnight homeless shelter from the sheriff’s office lot on College Road, and reserving the county-owned land as a spot to someday build an assisted living center.

“Let’s see what our viable options are,” Johnston said.

gfilosoa@keysnews.com

Personally, I felt the commission meeting was educational and entertaining. We got to see the mayor and several commissioners at their worst and sometimes even at their best. We got to see them being real people. It was refreshing.

I found myself talking last night to Tony Yaniz in my thoughts. It went something like:

“You should not file to run for mayor this year, Tony. You have two more years in your city commissioner term, and if you file to run for mayor, you give that up, and if you lose in the mayor’s race, you are out of office and out of that business, which might really bother you and your fans.

“You started out as a city commissioner sort of like Mario Di Gennaro started out as county commissioner.

Mario Di Gennaro

“Mario often was off the wall, out of bounds, out of order. He alienated a lot of people. As time passed, he changed, we became friends, his wife and older daughter, the wonderful singer, and I became friends. I backed Mario against David Rice in the 2010 county commission race. Mario had made many contacts in Tallahassee; the other county commissioners did not have those contacts. Mario got the $200,000,000 allocated by Tallahassee for resewering the Florida Keys. When David Rice beat Mario in 2010, the county government lost its man in Tallahassee. Many voters had not forgotten how Mario had been. Many voters did not believe he had changed. Just as many voters, Tony, have not forgotten your F-you-laced Rotary Club email sent out over your city commissioner email address. You praised the Rotary last night, but I doubt you won back any lost political capital in the Rotary Club, which gave you the option of resigning or being kicked out.

“You are on a really fast learning curve, Tony. I like a lot of what you say, and a lot of what you say seems to me like political posturing, boasting, grandstanding. You need more seasoning, more experience. Hold off running for mayor this year. Get more experience under your belt. Get a better grip on when to speak, and how to say it, and when to lay low. File to run for mayor in 2016, when your city commission term is up. By then, you might be a shoe-in, if you play your cards right.

“If you run for mayor this year, you will be in a crap shoot and a cat fight between you and Craig, and there is me. You heard the audience cheer me last night, when I spoke about the only sane place to put the new homeless shelter is on the Sheriff’s land. You heard the audience cheer me last night, when I spoke about the new noise (sound) ordinance, which item is not discussed in the Citizen today, so I will hold reporting on that, to give the Citizen a chance to report it, with me sharing my thoughts then.

“Like you and Craig, I am getting free city commission audience (including TV) exposure.. The Citizen provided my blog’s name – www.goodmorningkeywest.com – in its announcement of my candidacy for mayor. Everyone who read that Citizen article knows where they can read all about what I am doing and saying and am at www.goodmorningkeywest.com. I keep hearing people are reading me and sharing what they read with other people.

“To my eyes, the City Commission not reaching the Truman Waterfront architect’s fee item last night was a Divine Intervention, a very loud message that the cart is way before the horse out there. You and I both know they have designed something which will not generate revenues for the city. You and I both know they went on a shopping spree. You and I both know Bahama Village should have 6+ of those 33 acres to do with as that community wishes, because it was Bahama Village which inspired the Navy to give Truman Waterfront to the city. The angels see it that way, too, which is why the architect’s fee item did not get reached last night.

“I am running for mayor, Tony, because it was given to me to do. It is not coming from me. It is not coming from people telling me that I should run. I do not see  as a test of my worth, of my manhood, or bragging rights if I win. Hell, if I win, I will be overwhelmed with the sense of responsibility. I will pray for the strength to meet the challenge and the wisdom to engae it wisely.

“I have angels holding my feet to the fire ongoing. They cut me zero slack. They beat me up when they don’t like how I am thinking, planning, doing something. It’s terrible, and also terrifying, to incur their displeasure and corrections. It is beyond human imagination to be rebuked by angels.

‘I get teased, and worse, about saying I am led by angels. The Citizen has made sport of that in the past, and may do so this year. Even so, it should be clear to you and to Craig, and to everyone who sees and hears me speak at city commission meetings, that I am coming from a very different place than you and Craig, and everyone else.

‘Furthermore, I attend city commission meetings and speak regardless of whether I am running for mayor, or for any city or county office. I attended and spoke at city commission and other local government meetings before I knew I would run for public office. When Craig filed to run for mayor in 2009, I didn’t recall ever hearing him at a city commission meeting. When you filed to run for city commissioner in 2011, wasn’t it?, I didn’t recall ever hearing you at a city commission meeting.

“This year’s mayor’s race will be unlike anything Key West has ever seen, Tony. You might like the 2016 ‘experiment’ better.”

Moving up the “food chain”,

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Mud Dawg Mike, co-owner of Daddy Bones yummy BBQ, located behind Checkers on North Roosevelt Blvd,

Daddy Bones

responded to my lament in yesterday’s post that I had to settle for watching professional boxing at Jack Flats to wind down after Monday night’s Truman Waterfront Advisory Board meeting, instead of watching MMA:

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Ya wanna see MMA with your dinner Or nascar or really good boxing! The Daddy Bones is the place to be! We southern bred folks understand a little Blood sport with dinner is a Good thing. We don’t buy into the PC puussifaction of America. My motto If I haven’t offended you yet don’t feel left out I am getting around to you! Be patient! real men aint squeamish over a little MMA with dinner!

I replied:

Har, har, har!!! Got a city commission meeting tonight, maybe tomorrow night, or Thursday dinner at your place; need to get away from so much puuussification, it’s oozing out of City Hall.

Mike wrote:

yea i kno just listen to our mayor talk sounds like a cartooon character. and Weekly not sure how he walks with stick so far up his ass. If the politicians seriously think they have done ANYTHING good for the quality of life or the average citizen they are really in need of therapy. county govt too. Why the sheep in key west keep electing the same clowns who screwed up this little island is beyond me. Guess the service industry folk who get screwed the most are too busy at happy hour to vote. Lord knows you get the worker class outta bars into polling places the key west political scene would be drastically different from what it is today!!

I replied this morning:

After sitting through last night’s marathon often mano mano in Old City Hall, I’m thinking maybe a little more pussification and a lot less testosteroinzation might not be a such a bad thing.

Fantasy Fest feline 2Feather Talk

Cioasky

It might be fair to say that the cause of most, if not all, human woes is way too much testosterone,

Wiley Coyote

and not nearly enough estrogen.

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Concluding today’s Key West miseries and chuckles, a message from one of our other sponsors:

Devil or Angel 2
Sloan Bashinsky
keysmyhome@hotmail.com

Sloan in dress

Political advertisement paid for and approved by Sloan Bashinsky, for Mayor of Key West

Moving even farther up the “food chain”,

George NeugentNeugent

the County Commissioner George Neugent grinder pump drama reported in yesterday’s professional wrestling intergalatic hitchhiking cure to little known Florida Keys and Key West sewer, race and greed relations, and how to find out what is really going on in your city, if you really want to know post at www.goodmorningfloridakeys.com and www.goodmorningkeywest.com continued later yesterday with further forwards from Banks Prevatt, President of Dump the Pumps, Inc. – www.dumpthepumps.com :

Here’s the whole schmele since yesterday’s report, in reverse time order of the emails:

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Bgprevatt@?aol.com (Bgprevatt@aol.com)Add to contacts 3/18/14 Photos
To: bgprevatt@aol.com
Cc: kzuelch@fkaa.com, jrdean@fkaa.com, marble-terri@monroecounty-fl.gov, erin@deadylaw.com, Erin.Muir@myfloridahouse.gov, Kate.DeLoach@myfloridahouse.gov, boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov, tappell@fkaa.com, bbarroso@fkaa.com, dritz@fkaa.com, mwagner@fkaa.com, bop@eog.myfl.com, Rick.Scott@eog.myflorida.com, christian.weiss@laspbs.state.fl.us, Abdul.Ahmadi@dep.state.fl.us, Jon.Iglehart@dep.state.fl.us, Gary.Maier@dep.state.fl.us, Albert.McLaurin@dep.state.fl.us, Gus.Rios@dep.state.fl.us, Matthew.SmithKennedy@dep.state.fl.us

Denise,

I will share your comments with our group.

Banks

BCC 350+

From: dxxx@msn.com
To: Bgprevatt@aol.com
Sent: 3/18/2014 11:56:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Neugents Reply To: Cudjoe Regional Central Wastewater System

Spoken like a true politician! If neugent “holds The Keys in his heart as if it was his own child.” Perhaps we should contact the dept. of children’s protective services and report blatant child abuse!

I think we should nick name his pet project here to “Oneugent care”… “neugent’s affordable sewer care plan!

—– Original Message —–
From: Bgprevatt@aol.com
To: neugent-george@monroecounty-fl.gov
Cc: kzuelch@fkaaa.com ; jrdean@fkaa.com ; marble-terri@monroecounty-fl.gov ; erin@deadylaw.com ; Erin.Muir@myfloridahouse.gov ; Kate.DeLoach@myfloridahouse.gov ; boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov ; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov ; boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov ; boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov ; boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov ; tappell@fkaa.com ; bbarroso@fkaa.com ; dritz@fkaa.com ; mwagner@fkaa.com ; kzuelch@fkaa.com ; bop@eog.myfl.com ; Rick.Scott@eog.myflorida.com ; christian.weiss@laspbs.state.fl.us ; Abdul.Ahmadi@dep.state.fl.us ; Jon.Iglehart@dep.state.fl.us ; Gary.Maier@dep.state.fl.us ; Albert.McLaurin@dep.state.fl.us ; Gus.Rios@dep.state.fl.us ; Matthew.SmithKennedy@dep.state.fl.us Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Neugents Reply To: Cudjoe Regional Central Wastewater System

George,

Shame on you. This lady lives, works, plays, votes and raised her family in your district. She does not live on Mars.

For her and many of us your reply is unbelievable. Ignoring the pontifications and self asserted great warrior status in your first paragraph, your concluding statement in the second paragraph staggers common sense. I quote you, “LPS is the best system for the KEYS.”

George, please take a few minutes and explain to this lady why the original design of the system for the Lower Keys was all gravity and why, despite FKAA’s continuous call that gravity is better and that they prefer gravity, you know better than the experts you have chosen and insist on grinders. If you truly believe in LPS and cheaper, have you looked at STEP? This dovetails very well with what is already in the ground and would save millions upon millions.

In your third paragraph you state, “To think the FKAA or County would purposely designate convey a flawed system is ludicrous.”

What is ludicrous is the way the BOCC handled the mandate for central sewer in the Keys. Since the mandate had to do with the quality of our near shore waters, one would expect the best system available for that purpose, not the cheapest.

What is also ludicrous, George, is the way the BOCC handled the intent of money raised by a sales tax referendum. This was sold to the public as the item that would fully fund the sewer system before it became a grab bag for pet projects. I have heard you say that the system is fully funded. The public was sold on a proper system, not the cheapest mandated by the BOCC.

In your closing paragraph, you tell this lady, your constituent, ” the most efficient inclusive system to best serve you.”

Come on, George. How can you make such a statement and look yourself in the mirror? Are you the only one that does not know gravity is the most efficient inclusive system to best serve?

Best Wishes,
Banks

BCC 350+

Bgprevatt@?aol.com (Bgprevatt@aol.com)

To: Paul.D.Lehmann@

Paul,

Thanks for taking the time with this. Your clarity is appreciated.

Banks

In a message dated 3/18/2014 12:21:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Paul.D.Lehmann@writes:
Banks,
Save the below email from the Commissioner and then advise the FKAA that they should provide the same in writing to all the folks slated to get grinder pumps. Let FKAA work out the economics about whether grinders are in fact, the cheapest system over the life of the system. This should alleviate some of the concerns regarding FKAA commitments and FKAA should now have no reason to fail to provide those assurances.

In addition, I want to state this publicly, in no way does anyone think that George or the FKAA purposefully designed a flawed system. George, I respect public service and understand the position and democratic nature of our nation–that is what makes the U.S. great. That is why I serve the Country. We also understand there will be some grinder pumps in the system, the issue is with the amount of pumps being placed in fully platted and densely populated subdivisions. So here we are, the cards that we have been dealt, starting anew, focusing ahead.

That stated, the system that was designed has many points of failure (approx 1500 electrically operated grinder pumps) and if everyone is sure of the system and its effects–please, please conduct an independent study to validate all the claims that are being made by folks that clearly have a bias on both sides of the issue. It just makes sense to have an impartial review–basically a Cape Coral study for the Keys. The study could be done quickly since we are now dealing with 1500 or so units. If the County would agree to pause construction on LPS, maybe we the concerned citizens can help fund the study, who knows, there are so many options here but time is wasting.

In any case, the people set to get grinders are asking the County for gravity, knowing they will have to pay more money for initial connections. If it all comes down to money and unfortunately, it seems like it always does, can’t we work out the money question? There has to be some way to give the people what they are asking for, benefit the environment, reduce power usage and other beneficial impacts–maybe we develop some cost share or something else to generate some more revenue? Again, let’s explore solutions, in the end we are all neighbors.

All the 1500 or so people want is a system that doesn’t require power, pumps, explosion proof fittings etc. in order to go to the bathroom while reducing the risks to Keys water quality. I understand Big Pine is not permitted yet so now that the issues with LPS are raised, permitting will be more of a challenge–which again, is another reason to collaborate.

In the end, I think we need to focus on what we agree on:

1) We want to improve the Keys near shore water quality;
2) We recognize that poor water quality has negative impacts on all the economic drivers in the Keys; and
3) It is always more expensive to do things a second time.

There is a free/low cost group that conducts environmental conflict resolution (a third part neutral) and why not have a sit down, face to face to explore a reasonable solution to this whole situation. If needed we can ask Miami Dade County for technical assistance–they are undergoing significant sewer projects right now due to aging infrastructure, sea level rise and density.

With all that, there are so many options we can explore to do this right the first time, with public support. The opportunity to be a savior to the Keys citizens, the environment, tourism, fisheries and real estate is right here and right now.

Please, please consider this.

Very respectfully,
Paul Lehmann
In my individual capacity and Little Torch Key resident.

To: Bgprevatt@aol.com
Cc: kzuelch@fkaaa.com, jrdean@fkaa.com, marble-terri@monroecounty-fl.gov, erin@deadylaw.com, Erin.Muir@myfloridahouse.gov, Kate.DeLoach@myfloridahouse.gov, boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov, boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov, tappell@fkaa.com, bbarroso@fkaa.com, dritz@fkaa.com, mwagner@fkaa.com, kzuelch@fkaa.com, bop@eog.myfl.com, Rick.Scott@eog.myflorida.com, christian.weiss@laspbs.state.fl.us, Abdul.Ahmadi@dep.state.fl.us, Jon.Iglehart@dep.state.fl.us, Gary.Maier@dep.state.fl.us, Albert.McLaurin@dep.state.fl.us, Gus.Rios@dep.state.fl.us, Matthew.SmithKennedy@dep.state.fl.us, bigpinenews@aol.com, news@us1radio.com, tohara@keysnews.com, pclarin@keysnews.com

Banks,

Did Dump the Pumps start a grassroots campaign yet to defeat the next half cent infrastructure sales tax referendum? George Neugent and others have given you plenty of ammunition to fire into cyberspace, among other places.

And. are you telling the Big Pine Key folks not to sign FKAA’s easement agreement and to all hire one lawyer to defend them against any and every thing George, Monroe County, FKAAk, DEP might try against them?

When I recommended both of those courses of action to you maybe two weeks ago, and a back up plan for the Big Pine folks was to get their lawyer to file an injunction lawsuit, since little to no work had been done by FKAA and it’s contractors on Big Pine, thus no big indemnity bond to worry about, Dump the Pumps’ lawyer, Lee Rhoe, wrote to me that I had given good advice.

I don’t see you folks prevailing, if you don’t put boots on the ground and shoot live ammo at the bad guys and gals.

Sloan

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Sue,

George and the other commissioners will tell you how much research they each did before making a decision. I wonder how many of them even know of this plan much less read it.

Banks

In a message dated 3/18/2014 2:50:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ______@terranova.net writes:
While George seems to be emphatic that low pressure systems are the best, I find it interesting the Monroe County Wastewater Master Plan and the Islamorada Wastewater Master Plan both conclude that vacuum collection systems are the most suitable for the Florida Keys. The 2012 Wastewater Master Plan approved by the Village expresses that the vacuum collection system is preferred. Page 14 of the Plan: “This alternative was selected based on current knowledge of using vacuum sewers as the preferred method of collection in the Florida Keys and the minimal burden to homeowners. Additionally, the reliability, constructability, cost effectiveness, and aesthetic benefits provided by using vacuum sewer in the majority of the project makes this the preferred alternative.”

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To: neugent-george@monroecounty-fl.gov
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George,

Shame on you. This lady lives, works, plays, votes and raised her family in your district. She does not live on Mars.

For her and many of us your reply is unbelievable. Ignoring the pontifications and self asserted great warrior status in your first paragraph, your concluding statement in the second paragraph staggers common sense. I quote you, “LPS is the best system for the KEYS.”

George, please take a few minutes and explain to this lady why the original design of the system for the Lower Keys was all gravity and why, despite FKAA’s continuous call that gravity is better and that they prefer gravity, you know better than the experts you have chosen and insist on grinders. If you truly believe in LPS and cheaper, have you looked at STEP? This dovetails very well with what is already in the ground and would save millions upon millions.

In your third paragraph you state, “To think the FKAA or County would purposely designate convey a flawed system is ludicrous.”

What is ludicrous is the way the BOCC handled the mandate for central sewer in the Keys. Since the mandate had to do with the quality of our near shore waters, one would expect the best system available for that purpose, not the cheapest.

What is also ludicrous, George, is the way the BOCC handled the intent of money raised by a sales tax referendum. This was sold to the public as the item that would fully fund the sewer system before it became a grab bag for pet projects. I have heard you say that the system is fully funded. The public was sold on a proper system, not the cheapest mandated by the BOCC.

In your closing paragraph, you tell this lady, your constituent, ” the most efficient inclusive system to best serve you.”

Come on, George. How can you make such a statement and look yourself in the mirror? Are you the only one that does not know gravity is the most efficient inclusive system to best serve?

Best Wishes,
Banks

BCC 350+

In a message dated 3/17/2014 10:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, xx@aol.com writes:
He’s not too happy with me…….xxx

From: Neugent-George@monroecounty-fl.gov
To:
CC: kzuelch@fkaa.com, jrdean@fkaa.com, Marble-Terri@MonroeCounty-FL.Gov, Neugent-George@monroecounty-fl.gov, erin@deadylaw.com, Erin.Muir@myfloridahouse.gov, Kate.DeLoach@myfloridahouse.gov
Sent: 3/17/2014 10:06:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time

Subject: Re:Cudjoe Regional Central Wastewater System

I’m writing this e-mail to appeal to your integrity and fairness.

Mrs .xxx,

I’m not exactly sure how to respond to your letter other than with the Polite candor and frankness of the FKAA’s and Monroe County’s integrity and fairness.
30 years of living in the Keys, 16 years of public service, within a place I hold in my heart as if it were my child, I hope you will realize that my words are my bond and consummate belief. And, I am the commissioner of this District – a geographically described area I have to live within to run for office – however, I’m elected countywide and truly believe in being recognized as a county commissioner.

I’m not sure where you are getting your information Mrs xx, however, your source is shamefully misrepresenting the facts to you. The facts of the matter is that The Cudjoe Regional is getting the least expensive and best system of all systems in the Keys while have having 5 additional years to plan for its implementation. The FKAA has designed and put in-place the most inclusive overall least expensive and best operating system in the Keys. Grinder pumps will provide service equal to or better than gravity or vacuum. Grinder pumps are used in every system from Ocean Reef to Key West. Maybe a higher % of pumps in comparison, however, if one were to feel they’re flawed – not 1 should be in any of the systems. LPS is the best system for the KEYS.

The FKAA will maintain and operate the system and the County will forever, as a partner, own and provide reliable and dependable service to its constituents. There, you have it in writing. Your cost for service will be equal or less than other newly developed service areas in the county. Gravity would increase the overall/your cost. The system as designed will bring everyone fairly into a well engineered system that will provide years of dependable service. Those who use the scare tactics you’re hearing, the misinformation being conveyed they should be ashamed of themselves. To think the FKAA or County would purposely designate convey a flawed system is ludicrous.

The State, through the Department of Environmental Protection, has signed off on the design. The State, under the only leadership committed to the water quality commitment, Governor Rick Scott, and State Rep Holly Raschein, delivered 50million $s to assist in putting in place the most efficient inclusive system to best serve You.

With kindest regards, I remain
Sincerely,
George Neugent
Monroe County Commissioner

Here is what had been sent to George by a constitutent:

I live on Big Pine Key (XXX STREET ADDRESS) and it seems that I and my family on the next block are slated for “grinder pumps”. I have been a resident in the Florida Keys since 1971. My family has been and still is involved with Monroe County Sheriff’s Department. I am a widow living on my Social Security and husband’s retirement. My husband retired after 25 years, all of my sons have been deputies here. Also working for the Sheriff is my daughter who in June will have 29 years and her husband is at the airport and getting ready to retire in a year and a half and their son is a fireman in Key West with a wife, 4 year old son and a new baby. We are community minded every day citizens.

I’m so disappointed with FKAA and our County Commissioners especially the commissioner for our district for backing and deciding with no rhyme or reason who will get gravity and who will get grinders. Let alone the added expenses. The cost of permits, the extra electrical involved with grinders, the dangers of gas connected with them, the explosions that they are all talking about, the maintenance of them and the loss of our facilities.

There have been studies done comparing them with other methods including Gravity with Grinders being the worst system and Gravity coming out on top as one of the best. So why are you even considering them?

We have no WRITTEN guarantees from FKAA that you will maintain them forever. Whose to say that a month after installation you drop the ball and give us the responsibility of maintenance or began to charge us a fee to cover the maintenance?

Why is it that one block or several blocks have the grinders and then the next several blocks have the gravity and then back for a few more blocks you see the grinders?

These are my questions and fears but the biggest ones are money and not being able to use our facilities such as bathrooms, showers, dishwashers, washing machines, etc., etc. when we lose power. Having lived down here for so many years I have experienced loss of electric not only for hurricanes, but from overloads on the grids when the Keys have tourist such as Spring Break or Christmas, from a boat mast hitting the power lines and even from rain storms and windy conditions. So you say you have 1 or 2 trucks to go around and each has the capacity to pump 100 houses a day, what do the other homes do in the meantime? Are you going to go around and set up portable potties? You claim MAYBE all the part time residents won’t be here? You’ve got to be kidding!!

We’re talking about hard working families, young families that are trying to survive here in the Keys and you are putting a heavy burden on us all. If you were not able to come up with the original cost of $4500. it was put on your tax bill thus increasing your mortgage payment. The thought of coming up with another $3000. or $4000. is overwhelming.

I’m pleading for you to reconsider the grinders and give all of us the gravity pumps. We shouldn’t be punished because the monies have been used elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Ms x

CC: Governor Scott

Looks to me like George Neuget maybe needs an estrogen injection.

 

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