just when you thought the lower Florida Keys shitgrinder war couldn’t get any funnier …

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Love letters to and from the great shitbird of paradise, among others:

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Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda
Does the FKAA  have the authority to say no to the BOCC?  Could the FKAA Board have refused to install the cheaper inferior grinder pumps, because they preferred the better system of gravity for all?
Last month there was a gigantic Powerball prize jackpot. I was hoping I would win so I could give the FKAA the money they needed to get gravity for all, even with that amount approaching 50 million dollars. If I had won over 300 million, yes, I would have. I hoped and prayed to be tested.
Now, could the FKAA have said no to the BOCC requiring those awful grinder pumps, had I won and given them what they needed to get gravity for all? In that circumstance, I’m sure they could have and would have. I didn’t win, but I believe the FKAA could have said no in that hypothetical situation. Therefore, they could say no to the BOCC requirement of cheaper, awful grinder pump installations. They could say we will install gravity for all those that we can, with whatever monies you, the BOCC, allocate to us.
Having  funds reduced for this waste-water project and forcing the FKAA to install  awful, inferior, grinder pumps puts an undue hardship on a lot of home-owners that will have to pay high installation and maintenance costs. There’s also the probability of their homes depreciating in value because of grinder-pump hook-ups. Is saying no to the BOCC, something that the FKAA that could have done, butt would not do, when they should have? It’s a bad case of coulda, woulda, shoulda.
                              Joe McKasty  Big Pine Key
 
Me to Joe:
I see no reason why FKAA should not have declined to humor the BOCC. It was Monroe County, not FKAA, under Tallahassee’s area critical concern mandate. FKAA was not required to install any sewers the County did not pay for. I recently asked the FKAA Board at FKAA in Key West to tell its crews to stop working until BOCC had come up with the money FKAA said it needed to go with gravity wherever it was feasible. I asked out state representative Holly Raschein to try to persuade Governor Scott to tell the FKAA Board to stop doing the BOCC’s bidding. I told her the FKKA Board members were appointed by Governor Scott and serve at his leisure. I told the FKAA Board the same thing at their recent meeting in Key West, and Board Chairman Bob Dean said that was correct. Governor Scott could stop the work, thour his appointed FKAA board members.
Maybe more later.
 
forwards from Banks Prevatt, whose home on Little Torch Key is slated to get a grinder pump, bocc is Board of County Commissioners, fkaa is Florida Keys Aqueduct Authority
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From: Bgprevatt@________
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:47:27 -0500
Subject: Fwd: A plea to our commissioners
To: boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov
CC: tappell@fkaa.com; bbarroso@fkaa.com; jrdean@fkaa.com; dritz@fkaa.com; mwagner@fkaa.com; kzuelch@fkaa.com
 
Per the author’s request:
Some news media included in multiple blind copies.
 
Please forward to all on the mailing list including the news media and all commissioners. Please be sure to remove my e-mail address before forwarding.
With so much damning evidence over the inadequacies of grinder pumps and the misery they have caused in place after place across the U.S., Dylan’s “Blowing in the Wind,” written 50 years ago, comes to mind  ”How many times can a man turn his head, pretending he just doesn’t see?”
 
Commissioner Kohlage — you’ve listened and been objective on many issues, including this one. Commissioner Carruthers, you seem to have an open mind and want to know the facts as they are, not as they are manipulated by those whose designed the Hitchcockian sewer system. To the remaining 3 commissioners, it’s a sign of strength and great character to admit a mistake has been made and to change course to correct an error. You’re all too good not to do that and deep down you know it.  Commissioners Neugent, you’ve done a good job over these many years and have my respect — don’t let the inevitable grinder pump fiasco be your legacy. Look at the misery already caused before the pumps have been installed. The worst is yet to come.
 
Thanks for listening.
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Danny Kolhage, Heather Carruthers, George Neugent, David Rice, Sylvia Murphy
 
Banks Prevatt
To All:
 
Many of you may want to chat with your personal attorney before signing the easement required by FKAA for the grinder pump!  You may find the below interesting.
Banks
Sent: 1/7/2014 1:32:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: easements and existing mortgage
Sue’s research answered one of my questions of this morning. From this site (a good resource):
 
comes this (bold is my emphasis added) :
“The easement beneficiary will want the holders of all recorded, preexisting mortgages, deeds of trust and other liens affecting the burdened property (i) to consent to the granting of the easement and (ii) to subordinate their rights to the easement. Often, the granting of easements by a property owner without his lender’s permission constitutes an event of default under his mortgage or deed of trust. In that case, getting the lender’s consent is important. Also, if a lender or other lienholder does not subordinate its lien to the easement, then the easement may be wiped out, if there is a foreclosure or judicial sale. That would leave the easement beneficiary with no easement at all.”
This might be placed as a warning on the webpage?
 
From: Bgprevatt@_______________________
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:58:07 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Questions_for_Landowners_Garkovich.pdf
To: kzuelch@fkaa.com
CC: tappell@fkaa.com; bbarroso@fkaa.com; jrdean@fkaa.com; dritz@fkaa.com; mwagner@fkaa.com; boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov
 
Kirk,
Several folks have asked if the FKAA is recording the grinder pump easements with the court?
Banks
 
blind copy to 100+
From: ___________________
To: _____________________
CC: Bgprevatt@____________, ____________________
Sent: 1/7/2014 1:46:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Re: Questions_for_Landowners_Garkovich.pdf
 
DEP has strict requirements for sewage spills dealing with reporting and clean-up plus possible fines. It is a pretty gray area who is the DEP target when you own the property, the County owns the infrastructure, and the FKAA is the operator.
If flammable gases back up into the pit through the check valve and the pump ignites them and damages three houses in the blast and ensuing house fire, who is responsible? and so on.
Take out the word pipline add grinder pump and you see a lot more questions of importance
 
 
From: Bgprevatt@_______________
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:15:29 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Town Looking To Pass Maintenance Burden To Homeowners – Waterford Govern…
To: boccdis1@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov
CC: tappell@fkaa.com; bbarroso@fkaa.com; jrdean@fkaa.com; dritz@fkaa.com; mwagner@fkaa.com; kzuelch@fkaa.com
 
To The Commissioners,
 
What guarantees do Monroe County citizens have that this is not the legacy you are bestowing on them?  Ten years is not that far out in time!
Banks
 
Here’s another town with only about 300 grinder pumps in the system that they could not keep pumped down in a power outage and they are choking on the expense of maintaining them.
 
Sherry,
I have personally seen what you are talking about here in the Keys.  I sent this to a couple doing research and a few others.  Let’s see if this comes back as a problem in other communities.
banks
 
In a message dated 12/29/2013 9:12:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tagsher@______ writes:
Banks
The plastic grinder pump cylinder probably will not hold up against the root system of our plants either. My husband opened up our sand filter cover on our 9 year old $24,000 aerobic system and the roots of plants and trees have penetrated the wall of the tank. Lots of luck with the plastic grinder pump.Sent from Sherry’s iPad
On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Bgprevatt@_______ wrote:
For you new comers, Sloan’s post at
provides an interesting review of some of the issues.
– banks
multiple blind copies

 

From: Bgprevatt@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 08:01:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Town Looking To Pass Maintenance Burden To Homeowners – Waterford Govern…
To: Neugent-George@monroecounty-fl.gov
CC: Kolhage-Danny@MonroeCounty-FL.Gov; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov; BOCCDIS3@MonroeCounty-FL.Gov; BOCCDIS4@MonroeCounty-FL.Gov; BOCCDIS5@MonroeCounty-FL.Gov; tappell@fkaa.com; bbarroso@fkaa.com; jrdean@fkaa.com; dritz@fkaa.com; mwagner@fkaa.com; kzuelch@fkaa.com

Thank your for your time and service, George.

Banks

In a message dated 1/8/2014 7:45:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Neugent-George@monroecounty-fl.gov writes:

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:15 AM, “Bgprevatt@aol.com” <Bgprevatt@aol.com> wrote:

To The Commissioners,

What guarantees do Monroe County citizens have that this is not the legacy you are bestowing on them? Ten years is not that far out in time!

*****. “THIS” I’ll assume applies to the waste water systems which you attempt to malign. Guarantees you ask, Guarantees? Tempest Fugit.
OK, I’m back. Had to call Ocean Reef, Key Largo, Layton, Islamorada, Marathon, Key West and all the areas serviced, already, by FKAA. They researched their records and, guess what, not one had any formal guarantees for their system from anyone. Although, what was universally known by each group, was that ultimately, based on 99-395FS, each property owner is responsible for providing advanced treatment for wastewater and the cost to do such.

Also, in visiting, some did say that they have experienced some problems with their system whether gravity or vacuum, no grinder problems to date: some mechanical, some self-created, some with a failed drain field (ones yet to be replaced) and some with a system design flaw. But, you know, Banks, everyone also said their problem were corrected either by fixing it themselves, calling a plumber or the identified party responsible to correct the problem.

Another thing I found out while calling around, and it held true throughout the Cudjoe Regional especially, a very very high % of all the people throughout Monroe County (myself included) who’ve gone through the ordeal of infrastructure installation, although not having a guarantee, after brushing their teeth went to bed and slept soundly.

As someone who has worked in the private sector, small business owner in the Keys (restauranteur) and, as I do now, the public sector as a public servant, I’ve learned, to my dismay, that there are folks who don’t trust and detest government at all levels and are not happy unless they are unhappy… I’ll leave it at that because I can’t do anything for those folks.

For me, I recognize the need for government and to a great degree trust my local government while keeping a close eye upon them from the front row. I trust my Property Appraiser to appraise my property fairly and correctly and my Tax Collector to figure my taxes owed correctly so I can pay my fair share. I recognize they can and will make nominal mistakes and sometimes an unusually big mistake but will correct it and apologize. I trust the FKAA to get my water and sewerage bill correct, but verify from time to time, and in 99.99% of the time find they’re right on the money.

As someone who now sits in the front row of local government I listen to many asking fair questions and reasonable statements and who, in most times, are satisfied with a quality response from our subject matter experts, staff. And for what it is worth and from someone who has been privileged to not only serve the fair but tough taskmasters of this county, while alongside others who’ve put their life in the public arena, You have and are being well served.

What happens tomorrow and 10 years from now Banks, only God knows that answer. As I’ve said Banks, speaking only for myself, I believe in this engineer designed system and that our residents will be well served by its implementation. I absolutely have “faith and trust” in our local government, and NO we’re not mistake proof, and when you’ve got a problem that falls under local government’s responsibility, you, as all others, will be served well; no formal guarantee, just a promise as long as Monroe County is here.
GN

From: keysmyhome@hotmail.com
To: bgprevatt@aol.com; neugent-george@monroecounty-fl.gov
CC: kolhage-danny@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis2@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis3@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis4@monroecounty-fl.gov; boccdis5@monroecounty-fl.gov; tappell@fkaa.com; bbarroso@fkaa.com; jrdean@fkaa.com; dritz@fkaa.com; mwagner@fkaa.com; kzuelch@fkaa.com
Subject: RE: Town Looking To Pass Maintenance Burden To Homeowners – Waterford Govern…
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 10:03:24 -0500

Well, George,

If all is well and swell as you say, how come you and the BOCC gave Walt Drabinski what he wanted? How come you and the BOCC didn’t give Walt the dressing downs and ridicule you keep giving Banks?

Sloan

P.S.

My last question was sort of like asking the husband during a divorce trial, “Tell me, Mr. Jones, when did you stop beating your wife?” Or, asking the wife, “Mrs. Jones, did you tell Mr. Jones that you were screwing his brother?”
Let’s see, George, you and the BOCC treat somebody who sues you (Walt Drabinsky), nice and respectfully, but people who are nice and respectful and trusting, who don’t sue you, George, and the BOCC, get treated like shit. Does that size it up about right?

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There is a different post today at www.goodmorningkeywest.com, which you should be able to reach by clicking on that link today, and by clicking on this link at any time:
 
Sloan at Coco's
Sloan Bashinsky
 
keysmyhome@hotmail.com

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