in defense of the soul and lots more batshit crazy infirmities hidden in plain view – Key West and beyond

post, Rick Boettger of Key West wrote:
Another remarkably insightful and complex post, Sloan.  Thank you.

But I’m not sure even your broad shoulders can handle being yclept “Bat-shinksy,” as amusing and euphonic as it is.
Maybe let Rhonda’s witticism fade away….

To which I was moved to reply:
From: To: CC:
Subject: RE: batshit crazy and other shamen infirmities hidding in plain view Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 07:43:09 -0500
Morning Rick – Surely you jest. If you really wanted me to let this go, you would not have written to me and copied it to Rhonda. Oh, I don’t think it was witticism. I got the impression it was full-bore, pent-up dislike. Oddly, when Rhonda wrote her batshit crazy stuff for the Coconut Telegraph, I thought she was hilarious and right on, and she wrote kindly and affectionately of me and my batshit crazy writings which the pirate boss owner of the Coconut Telegraph had taken a shine to and was posting to a batshit crazy Sloan archive he created just for my ravings. Then, Rhonda retired “Deer Abby”, leaving many worshipful admirers in acute heart-wrenching coitus interruptus, and moved to Key West and went to work for Blue Dennis’ Newspaper and got married and wrote bimbo, self-absorbed stuff that caused me several times to lament for the return of who she used to be.
Since Rhonda picked my Facebook comments to and about Jonathan Horwitz, a shaman with a very big following apparently, to let her sidewinder missile fly, perhaps it’s time for me to say I wondered from the beginning, after Erika Biddle had told me about Jonathan and that I would enjoy knowing him, and I approached him on Facebook and heard back from him, if, when, it would go to an edge. I wondered that because that’s how it has gone every time in the past when someone has introduced me to their, or someone else’s, spiritual teacher. Might say getting to the edge in such situations is as predictable as the sun and the moon rises. Like what happened at the so-called Unitarian Church you attend, or used to attend, from which I was banned for life by the Committee Against Permanent Insanity, or some other batshit crazy name, created just for me in the fall of 2006, as I recall. About as batshit crazy as any church I ever attended. The smell of sulfur as plentiful, too.
Here’s what you might try, Rhonda. File your complaint with the angels who run me. No, scratch that. Your complaint went straight to them when you posted it to Facebook. So don’t file anything with the angels. Just look at what they had me publish the next day, which was their answer to you about firing me. It also was their answer to John Horwitz and any of this followers who were participating in or following that thread. That answer was given to me in a series of dreams, and with the arrival of an old spiritual ally, Sam Bogdanove, who knows me far better, I imagine, than any person in the Keys but maybe Sandy Downs. Did it occur to you, Rhonda, that Sam was requisitioned by the angels to tell you that he did not grok your batshit crazy remark? If not, you are batshit crazy-squared, in the same league with the folks at the Ununitarian Church, who were getting one signal after another that their compass was busted, yet they kept navigating by it.
What I wish for you, Rhonda, is that the angels would put you in my skin for a day and a night, unfiltered, unprotected, so you could get the full measure of who I am and what I experience. No, scratch that mean-spirited jibe. You would perish in five minutes if you were put in my skin, simply because you have not been gotten into shape for the marathon I am put to run every day and night of my life. A marathon that produces everything I publish for public view, and stuff I write to people, which the public never sees. And stuff I say publicly, and privately. Perhaps you should thank your lucky stars, and the moon too, that you do not live in my skin, Rhonda. Perhaps you should ponder instead, what in the hell happened to Deer Abby? Why did you do away with her? Why didn’t you let her have her way with the legion of juicy opportunities Key West would have provided without even breaking sweat? The angels wept when Deer Abby quit holding forth.
You understand, don’t you, Rhonda?, that the angels used Rick to wake me up to who you are – I was sound asleep – and to invite me to write this today.
Sloan Batshitsky
In further defense of the soul:
School District Chief Operating Officer Michael Kinneer forwarded this to Larry Murray and me yesterday. I replied that it was excellent and I might post it today, along with Larry’s letter to the editor in the Key West Citizen, which follows Michael’s forward.
You might find this interesting
From: Janice> Date: November 28, 2012, 3:19:21 PM EST To: Janice Resseger <> Subject: Long but worth reading…
Diane Ravitch forwarded this piece from the Dallas Morning News on her blog this morning. You might find it interesting—an interview with John Kuhn, superintendent of the small Texas Perrin-Whitt School District. Kuhn is known for being prophetic and sensible, all at the same time.
John Kuhn Explains Why the Status Quo is Wrong November 28, 2012 //
John Kuhn is superintendent of a small school district in Texas. But his voice is mighty and powerful. Those who have heard him wish he were Commissioner of Education for the state of Texas or in another position where everyone would learn from his wisdom.
Point Person: Our Q&A with John Kuhn on school’s over-reliance on testing
The Dallas Morning News, Published: 02 November 2012 07:21 PM
John Kuhn, superintendent of the Perrin-Whitt school district in Jack County, northwest of Fort Worth, is active speaking out and writing critically about public-education reformers. He’s gained some fame for his oft-quoted”Alamo letter” from 2011, in which he vowed never to surrender the fight for his students. Now that more than 850 Texas school boards have signed on to a resolution against over-reliance on high-stakes testing, we asked Kuhn what that movement is all about. (This is a longer version of the Q&A that appears in print.)
You’ve said some very pointed things about education reformers, including Education Secretary Arne Duncan, and their impact on schools. What worries you the most?
What worries me most as both a dad and an educator is the outsized influence of test-makers, statisticians, and economists on modern educational decision-making. Unfortunately, our wizards of data are not wizards of humanity, and they have foolishly elevated impersonal forces as the drivers of education. The education of children is above all a human endeavor. We aren’t programming answers into computers; we are inspiring and encouraging and challenging and coaxing and pushing and pulling and hoping and praying and hugging and wiping tears and watching ballgames and telling them how nice they look in their prom dresses. The value of the factory model touted by today’s educational Taylorists is quickly disproved by its absence of the holistic and humane methods employed in the best private schools. Middle class kids need and deserve more art in their lives than the arrays of bubbles they pencil in. Elite reformers want what’s best for their kids, but they often only want what’s most efficient for yours and mine. Ultimately, I want for my kids what caring parents, like our president, want for theirs: a thorough, non-standardized education of the whole child. Today we are so busy raising test scores that we are forgetting to raise children. The little red schoolhouse is fast becoming a little red widget factory, and that’s wrong for kids and detrimental for our future well-being as a people.
To what extent are your concerns shared by other local educators?
We are nearing critical mass. I only speak for myself, but there are hundreds of Texas schools suing the state in a lawsuit that has been called”the granddaddy of school finance lawsuits.” They aren’t suing for more money but rather for sensible policies and an honest accounting by the state of the costs of its mandates. Reduced education funding sometimes happens during hard times, but reduced regulation? Our recent $5.4 billion school funding reduction came with a brand new $500 million dollar contract with the London test-shop Pearson. There are also hundreds of school boards in Texas that have signed a resolution that says standardized tests are strangling education and draining it of its vibrancy and excitement for learners. The resolution—started in Texas—has spread to several other states. Then there are Texas parents forming groups like Texans Advocating for Meaningful Student Assessment, Texas Parents Opt Out of State Tests, and Kids Can’t Wait. School board members have organized initiatives like last session’s “Make Education a Priority” movement. Over 20 school districts are participating in the Texas High Performance Schools consortium; they will pilot a new way of holding teachers and students accountable for learning that embraces modern technology instead of tools inspired by 19{+t}{+h} century scientific management theory. They will hopefully develop a new, less punitive and misleading accountability methodology that reduces the onslaught of bubble tests that our kids face today. Are my concerns widely shared by local educators? I would guess yes, but I can’t prove it. Many educators prefer to keep quiet and keep their jobs (which aren’t as secure as they used to be) so you won’t hear too many speak out publicly about the burdensome and sometimes near-impossible demands they face. In fact, an educator who speaks up is usually condemned fairly quickly as an apologist for the status quo. Meanwhile, the real status quo is the expensive and ineffective testing-and-labeling we’ve been doing for 30 years in Texas.
Put it in human terms. What’s not happening in the classroom today because of focus on standardized testing?
High schoolers must pass five EOC tests per year; they’re often placed in remedial classes if they don’t pass. Sophomores may be losing one or two periods for a remedial class. That’s one or two electives gone. As time passes, some will stack up tests they failed two years ago, last year, and tests they face this year. A struggler who might flourish because of a trade won’t get his hands dirty. This is one size fits all; all kids are going to college whether they want to or not. Texas Workforce Commissioner Tom Pauken notes that Texas has a shortage of welders and plumbers, but our system is built so that students most likely to benefit from technical training won’t get it. We’re channeling would-be highly-paid technicians not into available industry-recognized certification programs but rather into schedules that feature a paucity of hands-on experiences, so they can focus on their tests. In elementary school, strugglers lose art, recess, music, or PE. We tell at-risk students to stay in school; then we take away classes they most enjoy. When we reduced education to a competition, we condemned exploration and discovery and settled for rote proficiency.
How does this affect how a teacher teaches?
Teachers face a perverse incentive to drill and kill in the classroom and focus intensely on the narrow curriculum that is tested. Principals face the temptation to enforce scripted approaches that overemphasize test prep. Marketers are pitching materials keyed to STAAR with great zeal; districts face an onslaught of big promises: “Raise STAAR Scores Now!” Some teachers and schools resist a test-centered approach in favor of a child-centered approach; but with livelihoods on the line if scores don’t rise, it’s as if teachers are being asked to teach under hanging anvils. Teachers and administrators agree with the need for accountability and want to be held accountable for our results. What we ask for are honest measures that take into account all factors that contribute to our success or failure. Educational outcomes do not solely hinge on teacher quality. There are home and community and funding factors in play, but accountability gurus are happy to leave those variables out of their formulas. No one but the teachers are up for criticism in their world of selective accountability. The U.S. Department of Education has chosen to set a 100 percent standardized testing pass rate as the goal, with constant classroom duress as the main motivator for teachers and students and absolutely no pressure on legislators to provide equitable resources from school district to school district. We shouldn’t be surprised to see unintended consequences as schools struggle to attain the impossible: getting 100 percent of their kids to pass the almighty bubble test by 2014. What’s good for test scores isn’t always what’s good for kids, but our punitive accountability fetish has established test scores as the measurably more important of the two.
But aren’t there poor teachers who fail to prepare their students, and don’t test scores help establish that?
Yes, poor teachers exist. No, a poor test score doesn’t establish poor teaching. It’s not that simple. A terrible teacher in an $8,000-per-pupil school may obtain higher scores than a wonderful teacher in a $4,000-per-pupil school. Those extra funds impact outcomes by providing smaller classes, fewer leaks in the roof, more and newer instructional materials, and various supports that aren’t available at the other school. Our current system dissuades the best teachers from teaching in our toughest schools because they will be facilely scapegoated for things outside their control. Pinning everything on the classroom teacher lets policymakers and budget writers off the hook pretty easily. Accountability only falls on teachers, and politicians laugh all the way to re-election.
What does your “child-centered approach” look like, and how does the state make sure that all students learn the fundamentals?
Tom Pauken’s approach is child-centered, with multiple paths to graduation: a math/science path, humanities/fine arts path, and a technical/vocational path. Students get ownership of their education and focus on their strengths instead of adhering to one-size-fits-all mandates from outsiders. Elementaries need a well-rounded curriculum including core classes, arts, physical education, and recess for unstructured play. Test advocates pretend a $500 million plan to test every student every year is the only way to monitor learning and that everyone who opposes this bamboozle opposes accountability. But many of us who wish to reform reform support smart testing using sampling techniques at certain grades to save limited instructional time and education dollars. There are many additional ways to monitor outcomes if Texans will think outside the testing contract straightjacket. Online portfolios, NAEP scores, ACT-PLAN and PSAT scores, grades and passing rates, graduation rates, college-acceptance rates, dropout rates, and student surveys are just a few that come to mind. We can also require all graduates to show they are college-ready by means of college acceptance and/or ACT/SAT scores, or show they’re career-ready by obtaining an industry-recognized vocational certification prior to graduation. This isn’t hard; it just isn’t what lobbyists want to hear. I admit that I am not sold on STAAR. I do not agree with the allegation that I therefore oppose accountability. In fact, I want accountability even for the accountability merchants.
More than 850 Texas school boards have passed resolutions objecting to the over-reliance on standardized testing. What impact do you expect that to have in next year’s lawmaking session?
I don’t know. I suspect that voting parents calling their representatives will have more impact than school board resolutions. It was telling months ago how quickly and publicly some Texas moms rebuked a prominent testing advocate when he accused superintendents of “scaring mom” over the testing issue. Rep. Jimmie Don Aycock said in a hearing last session that officials were getting lots of phone calls from parents about overtesting. At the same time, I understand that lobbyists representing the testing firms won’t go down without a fight. I would like to note that these resolutions were adopted by elected local trustees. In Texas schools, school board members are often parents and involved community members; they are regular folks. This is representative democracy in action—local citizens are using the resolution to let their voices be heard alongside the lobbyists in Austin. If our leaders truly want to represent their constituents, the resolution will indeed influence their actions.
Why fight? Don’t you have a lot of common ground with advocates of standardized testing — high school graduates who are prepared to go into the workforce, onto more training or onto college?
I don’t think I have much common ground with folks who set impossible targets (100 percent of students must pass their standardized tests in 2014, under No Child Left Behind) and ignore the effects of funding injustices (Academically Unacceptable districts get funded an average of $1,000 less per student than Exemplary districts). These policies don’t help kids; they help to torpedo public schools. Texas leaders have worshipped test-and-punish technocrats for over 20 years, and yet a testing advocate recently wrote “Wake Up – Schools Are Failing.” He says the solution is to “stay the course,” i.e., more of the same. But why are schools failing after two decades with accountability hawks in charge? When will their prescriptions work? It’s telling that Texas private schools are allowed to utilize the state’s testing system but politely say, “No thanks.” Meanwhile, the universal failure of Texas public schools is preordained for 2014 — guaranteed by those who came up with the federal accountability targets — and news of their failure will be music to the ears of some. But to many of us, the school is still the heart of the community. Our sons and daughters still grow up in the glow of Friday night lights, just as they have for generations. We still put their pictures in the paper when they do well at the spelling bee or win an essay contest; we still burn a bonfire and crown our small-town royalty. My son and I recently looked at my dad’s yearbook photo from 1951. Dad was a Pirate, and now, 60 years later, my sons and my daughter are all Pirates, too. Some people may want a charter school or a virtual online school for their kids, and that’s fine — but many of us simply want Texas to stop undermining our humble community schools by carpet-bombing them with tests, paperwork, and inane targets … and maybe pat our hard-working teachers on the back once in awhile, too. To me, these things are worth fighting for. These are the same public schools that educated the greatest generation and taught the Americans who won the space race. News of their demise is greatly exaggerated.
This Q&A was conducted via email and condensed by Dallas Morning News editorial writer Rodger Jones. His email address is John Kuhn can be reached at –Jan
Ms. Jan Resseger Minister for Public Education and Witness Justice and Witness Ministries 700 Prospect, Cleveland, Ohio 44115 216-736-3711
“That all citizens will be given an equal start through a sound education is one of the most basic, promised rights of our democracy. Our chronic refusal as a nation to guarantee that right for all children…. is rooted in a kind of moral blindness, or at least a failure of moral imagination…. It is a failure which threatens our future as a nation of citizens called to a common purpose… tied to one another by a common bond.” —Senator Paul Wellstone, March 31, 2000
AMEN! I often said and wrote during my school board campaign, and before it, that the American teaching model is soul destructive and child abuse.
‘Also ran’ candidates didn’t fool the voters
The School Board elections have passed and I am reminded of a line from an old ’60s Pete Seeger song, “Where have all the young men gone?” When Hometown PAC issued its call for candidates, pretenders to the throne came out of the proverbial woodwork. Candidates never seen at a School Board meeting, candidates who had not been in the Henriquez Building in years, if ever, announced that they wished to become part of the Group of Five charged with the destiny of the School District. Well, the elections, primary and general, have come and gone. Candidates that surfaced long enough to put out signs and attend a few forums have evaporated as quickly as they had appeared. Where have they gone, Michael Cunningham, Mark Peterson, John Welsh, Howard Hubbard and Yvette Mira-Talbott? Only Andy Griffiths and Ed Davidson, winners, along with Sloan Bashinsky and myself remain engaged. Whatever interest the “also rans” may have had has ebbed with the tide that brought them in the first place. Fortunately, the “summer soldiers and sunshine patriots” as Thomas Paine described them, did not fool the voters and the electorate saw through their feigned interest.
Larry Murray
Big Pine Key
Larry and I didn’t fool the voters, either. Glad I was not, I wonder if Larry will ever get over not being elected. =========================
Email yesterday to Key West Mayor Craig Cates, the six City Commissioners, the City Attorney, the City Manager and Key West Citizen reporter Gwen Filosa, who now covers the City Hall beat:
From: To:;;;;;;;; CC:
Subject: visible problems with Mayor Cates’ proposed new homeless shelter Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:19:56 -0500
Below is today’s KW Citizen article on Mayor Cates’ proposed new homeless shelter at the Easter Seals and Mosquito Control Board properties on Stock Island.
As all of you know, I was homeless in Key West and I know a bit about homeless people, the demographics, the potential for bringing homeless people back into mainstream.
Based on what is reported in Gwen Filosa’s article, Mayor Cates, you and some commissioners do not see clearly or consistently what might or might not be achieved with a bigger and better KOTS.
I do not believe a new shelter will work in the way you envision, Mayor Cates, unless you keep KOTs for the addicts, or have some place else for them to sleep nights. You do not want to mix them in a shelter with homelesss people who most easily can be returned to mainstream living.
If any of you wish to speak with me, either email me or call me at 305-872-1705.
Meanwhile, please read the citizens’ poignant and pertinent online feedback below Gwen Filosa’s article, and my feedback submitted but not yet posted online.
Sloan Bashinsky
City takes first step for 24-hour shelter
Citizen Staff
The City Commission is days away from taking the first formal step in bringing a 24-hour homeless shelter to Key West, one that would do away with the present Stock Island bunkhouse that is only meant as a safe crash pad for those who have nowhere else to sleep. If approved, the resolution marks the first time the city’s leaders have put in writing a plan for a 24-hour shelter. At Tuesday’s 6 p.m. meeting at Old City Hall, Mayor Craig Cates will present a resolution that calls for a full report on what it would take to open a 24-hour shelter at city-owned land on College Road: the site of the former Easter Seals building along with the present offices leased by the Mosquito Control District. Those two locations “either singly or together could provide an adequate basic infrastructure for a 24-hour homeless shelter and services center,” the resolution states. Cates wouldn’t offer a ballpark dollar figure for the center on Thursday, saying the resolution will direct staff to tally up a final price and that the county could agree to pitch in or help deliver grant money. “It’s something we have to have,” said Cates. “We have to deal with the homeless. With this, I can go out and try to find funding.” The resolution says that “successful homeless facilities require the combined efforts of local, county and charitable organizations to cooperate to identify methods, financing and appropriate experienced personnel to create and manage” a 24-hour shelter. Since he took office in 2008, Cates has been talking about creating such a comprehensive center that would provide a central place for Key West that would offer all current services, including food, shelter and treatment programs. For now, the city provides only the Keys Overnight Temporary Shelter, which offers a vinyl mattress and a hot shower for up to 140 men and women. The city reserves $400,000 a year to run the shelter, which ends services at 7 a.m. daily, sending men and women filing out with their belongings on their backs or bicycle baskets. Cates has the votes to pass the resolution, a round of phone calls to commissioners proved Thursday. “This isn’t for vagrants; this is for the guy that lost his job that got sick and that, by the grace of God, go all of us,” said Commissioner Teri Johnston, who supports the resolution. “It takes more than a shower and a cot to do that.” Commissioner Clayton Lopez said Thursday that he will also vote in favor of the resolution. Like Johnston, Lopez pointed out a difference between the island’s residents in dire need of basic services and a fringe element of those who booze and urinate in public. “Who are we to say which is which?” Lopez asked rhetorically. “You have to help all. Those who don’t want the help, they’ll show themselves.” A third commissioner said he was skeptical about Key West planting a 24-hour shelter on Stock Island, but that he will also vote “yes” on Tuesday when the resolution comes up. “Yeah, since it’s just going to be a study on it to find out exactly what we’re going to do about it,” said Commissioner Billy Wardlow, whose district includes KOTS. “I’m not really keen for 24 hours. I don’t mind a place for them to sleep. “My problem with 24 hours is that we don’t have a place out in this part of town for kids and adults to go to, like a library.” Cates and his resolution argue that a 24-hour shelter will reduce the homeless population by offering “training and mentoring programs.” Plans for a 24-hour homeless shelter have also been offered up as part of the city’s legal strategy in settling a pending lawsuit filed by Sunset Marina condo owners over the location of KOTS, which is situated near the upscale homes and the county jail. 
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the other shelter was 24 Submitted on Fri, 11/30/2012 – 12:03pm by george
the other shelter was 24 hours at the beginning but they never left, to look for work or do anything so they had to shut it down to just at night. The majority do not want to work, if they did, they would….. Will they arrest those that use drugs and alcohol on property or just turn them back to the mangroves. Key west has become a haven for those who do not want to work and just want to hang out. If I were homeless and wanted a job I would not spend all day hanging out at the beach. And where is the VA’s responsibility here? A lot of these people are wounded warriors who have been cast aside by the government they were damaged while protecting? The VA hospital should open up a shelter for the homeless veterans.
White Elephant Submitted on Fri, 11/30/2012 – 6:44am by
Who is going to feed this white elephant? The lowly taxpayer that’s who. What is the total construction cost? No one knows. Annual budget and staff required to run this circus 365/24/7? No one knows. It’s a white elephant wrapped in a boondoggle. Meanwhile the neighbors and surrounding schools and businesses have clearly communicated to the mayor and city commissioners that they do not want this proposed facility located in the former Easter Seals building and yet they continue to move forward with the mayor’s plan. Why is that? No one knows.
Crusade Submitted on Fri, 11/30/2012 – 1:42am by Black Panther
Ah yes. The spectacle of one man’s crusade [Mayor Craig Cates] to create a human petting zoo for the homeless since his daughter mowed one down on the boulevard. Ironic that the Easter Seals folks were chased from the building because of a lack of funding, but funding is apparently available to build a comfy sanctuary for the chronic bums. One human family indeed. Screw the needy children, but pamper the bums.
Easter Seals Submitted on Fri, 11/30/2012 – 5:00pm by keywestgirl67
The children are our future, and the city needs to focus on that issue.
I submitted this online comment last night, and also sent it in as a letter to the editor:
If the “vagrants” are not to be allowed into the proposed new shelter, where will they hang out? Perhaps more importantly, where will they sleep at night? In public parks? By federal case law, the city has to allow them to sleep outside, if no city shelter is provided for them to sleep. Another question? Will people with booze and/or other addictive drugs in their blood and urine be allowed into the proposed new shelter? If so, there is no way it will be a “rehab” or “turn around” shelter. And if addicts are not allowed into the proposed new shelter, figure that being about 90-95 percent of the people who currently stay at KOTS, and about the same percent of street people who do not stay there, where will they hang out during the day and sleep at night? Refer back to federal case law, particularly Pottinger v. City of Miami. That same federal court has jurisdiction over Key West. Sloan Bashinsky
When I ran for Mayor of Key West in 2007, there was so much mean talk in The Citizen, and from County Commissioner Heather Carruthers and her Higgs Beach Committee, on which I sat, and at candidate forums of “vagrants”, that I had “vagrant” tattooed on my right shoulder and took to calling the name-callers Nazis without quotation marks. Forcing homeless people who are not addicts into a shelter with addicts is the work of the Devil. Don’t take my word for it, though. Sleep at KOTS for a week and find out for yourself.
I also sent an email to the County Commissioners and the County Administrator, with the same article and comments above from The Citizen:
From: To:;;;;; CC:
Subject: Key West’s proposed new homeless shelter Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:59:12 -0500
In a KW Citizen article today, reproduced in full below, it says Mayor Cates is looking to get Monroe County to help fund his proposed new homeless shelter at the Easter Seals and Mosquito Control Board properties on Stock Island.
In 2003, I asked the BOCC why they were bailing KW out by going along with KOTS? I did that at a BOCC meeting in the Harvey Government Center.
As all of you know, I learned a lot about this topic by being homeless in Key West.
If any of you wish to speak with me about the County getting further involved, either email me or call me at 305-872-1705.
Please read the citizens’ poignant and pertinent online feedback below Gwen Filosa’s article, and my feedback submitted but not yet posted online.
Based on what is reported in Gwen’s article, Mayor Cates and city commissioners are not looking at the new shelter or the homeless demographics clearly, nor consistently.
Jerry of Key West keeps stalking me, trying to sell me on his rational philosophy under the subject of “Black Art, Salesmanship” – his topic.
I had written:
I get a sense you have me mixed up with someone else in your life, someone you want to change, win over, get his/her approval. Perhaps your father or mother, or a grandfather or grandmother, or a sibling, or someone.
I get the sense you desperately want attention, affirmation, kudos.
I get the sense you feel like you have not made it, proven yourself.
I used to feel that way a lot; it drove me out of my wits sometimes. These days, I simply try to get up out of bed and deal with today, for it has enough trouble of its own.
Jerry wrote:
Perhaps you project your own litany of self doubts onto me. You have certainly not afforded me the same credibility in my own sensation of my own sentient experience as you ask that I give you. Jerry
Jerry, your experience is your experience. My experience is different. I told you that years ago, and that we are not talking the same language and we should stop talking. Do you want me to take you off of my email postings? Sloan =======================
I asked you the same question about taking you off mine, a few weeks ago. If you take me off, most likely, I will ask you fewer questions. “Jerry, your experience is your experience. My experience is different.” Does that mean that my experience is less true than yours? If so, does that mean that where we differ, both are correct and the universe resolves this by a multiverse? ======================
I take yours as a no, so I will leave you on my email list, and most likely, as indicated by the angel editors, your questions and my answers and your replies, etc. will end up in posts to my websites, which other people can read or not, as suits them.
It seems we both want to hear other points of view. …Or ends up in posts to your websites as suits you.
Not true. Out for walk, I found myself thinking that listening to you is similar to listening to Jehovah’s Witness or an aggressive born-again Christian.
How would you know? Surely, you’re not using that head for reasoning again are you?
I have had many conversations with Jehovah’s Witnesses and with aggressive born-again Christians, initiated by them. Conversing with you is similar to conversing with them.
What I told you was based on many up close and personal experiences with Jehovah’s Witnesses and with aggressive born-again Christians, and not on something I read or heard or observed from a distance about Jehovah’s Witnesses or aggressive born-again Christians.
I think, Jerry. I reason. But not like you do. I do not make reason lord over all of my being. I do not proselytize reason. I do not deify it. I respond to life with far more than reason. If I only relied on reason, I would be in deep shit.
I’m afraid you may already be there. That is one of the things with which you have difficulty. Telling useful communication from useless. The only way you can tell the difference between your angels and a born-again Christian is with the words they say or the feelings you get. If your feelings, than it is all about you. If with words, then you have to know which words are of God to begin with. How do you do that if your only source is angels telling you and you deciding which are telling the truth and which aren’t? That isn’t feeling. That is reason. It has a rational name. It is called tautology. What feels true to you is true to you because it feels true. Invalid reason, but reason none the less. Feeling is not reason. It is love and trust and faith. A genuine concern for the desperation of others, some in their ignorance. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” –First letter of John However, you must know what the Bible actually says to do this. You know only bits and pieces, sorting out what makes sense to you and dispensing with the rest like a child who says to her mother. “You don’t what what you’re talking about. You don’t live my life.”
I can’t say I have gotten any useful information from you, Jerry. And I don’t need angels to tell me that you remind me of talking with a Jehovah’s Witness or an aggressive born-again Christian. I know it intellectually, I know it emotionally, I know it viscerally, I know it in my soul. I know it with my entire being.
I found myself thinking of Descartes after our last round. I wondered how long he spent finally arriving at proving he existed by postulating, “I think, therefore I am.” I wondered why he didn’t just have someone kick him in the balls and right then and there he knew he existed.
This is pretty much were we were when you kept trying to engage me at Sippin’ several years ago, and I went along with it a few times, but finally I said I didn’t want to talk with you about it anymore.
That’s where I’m at now. What you are selling is not for me. If you don’t like what I publish, quit reading it. I’m done with this conversation.
My experience, my mind, my emotions, my visceral sensations and my soul tell me:
Jerry has me mixed up with someone else in his life, someone he want to change, win over, get his/her approval. Perhaps his father or mother, or a grandfather or grandmother, or a sibling, or someone.
He desperately wants attention, affirmation, kudos.
He feels like his have not made it, proven himself.
He is trying very hard to prove to himself, and to others, that he is sane.
Only God can cure Jerry of all of that. No, I can’t prove any of it, but it’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
On getting kicked in the balls, from Facebook yesterday:
Mickey A. Foster

A little beer and some philosophic musings
I mowed the lawn today, and after doing so I sat down and had a couple of nice cold beers. The day was really quite beautiful, and the brew facilitated some deep thinking on various topics. Finally, I thought about an age old question: is giving birth more painful than getting kicked in the nuts?
Women always maintain that giving birth is way more painful than a guy getting kicked in the nuts. Well, after another beer, and some heavy deductive thinking, I have come up with the answer to that question. Getting kicked in the nuts is more painful than having a baby; and here is the reason for my conclusion. A year or so after giving birth, a woman will often say, “it might be nice to have another child.” On the other hand, you never hear a guy say, “You know, I think I would like another kick in the nuts.”
I rest my case. . . .

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Danny Moore What lawn?
Brian Myers You got that right!
J.r. Swenson Raking rocks counts, doesn’t it?
Kelsi Rosbough Well…. Mr Foster…. Based on that reasoning you just might be correct!! :))
Lynda Drapal Vic Sodrel Good laugh!! Love your post.
Mona O’Bannon but what if in order to have kids you had to be kicked in the nuts? would you take the pain to have a child? lol
Martha E. Mullinax You crazy. Mona I want to see his answer for that.
Preston Hicks You are a genius señor foster!
Walter Duke The Muse of BudLight.
Meg Horne Those beers really helped your deductive powers!
Toni Arwood Tollison did u consider the end result of both causes of pain?
Julie Burke LMAO !!!
Sloan Bashinsky I rather imagine there is no way for a man to know the pain of child birth, and I rather imagine there is no way for a woman to know the pain of getting kicked in the nuts.
Sloan Bashinsky What I regret most about what you mentioned, Mickey, is I no longer can get hot and sweaty, or depressed, or whatever, and sit down and have a couple of beers. One beer, and a couple of hours later and I feel terrible in my liver, G.I. tract. You lucky fellow.
Edward Steelman Plato would be proud.
Sammy Burnett Mickey you knocked it out of the park
Suzi Kershner Rubio I think that just proves the argument that women have a higher pain tolerance than men. Whimps!!
Gloria Williams That’s a nutty conclusion!
Lisa Beresoff When you get kicked in the nuts you have nothing to show for it. When you have a baby you go through alot of pain, but you do get a little buddle of joy. This is the reason women would go through all that pain of having another baby. Just my thought!!!
David Beresoff Nuts is what you tell the Germans when you don’t want vacate the beer hall or Bastogne.
Shawn Tittle Actually, there are studies that show many women actually forget the pain of childbirth. They remember it was painful, but not exactly HOW much pain was involved. Makes sense so they continue wanting more from an evolutionary view point. It would be great if it worked the same for a kick in the nuts. 😀
Russ Scavelli That is perfect reasoning !!!!!!!
Sandra Hall I see your point if view. My take is this— have you ever had a Charlie Horse or a severe muscle spasm? That is what labor feels like, and that goes on for however long the labor is. The urge to push feels like this— take two boxes of ExLax and have somebody tell you that you can’t go to the bathroom. There– the gauntlet has been thrown down. 😉
Sandra Hall And — to quote Bill Cosby, “When I asked my wife was it was like to be in labor, she grabbed my lower lip and pulled it over my forehead. ”
Sandra Hall Then, after my daughter completed one of those sex education classes, she told me that she would NEVER do that. I told her that when she fell in love and got married, her husband would want to start a family. I looked at her and said told her that she would give her hubby a sappy smile and say “yes.” I now have 3 year old grandson. :-

Sloan Bashinsky The longer I sit with this thread, the more disturbed I feel. I wonder what in you, Mickey, provoked you to make a joke out of childbirth? Do you wish you were never born? Do you resent you mother? But for childbirth and your mother, you would not have been born.

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2 Responses to in defense of the soul and lots more batshit crazy infirmities hidden in plain view – Key West and beyond

  1. Raven says:

    Careful, your Narcissistic Sociopathic Disorder is showing:

    Just doing my job: making sure the Light shines in all the darkest places…

  2. Sloan says:

    I considered sending this and your previous comment to spam. Then, I decided to leave it lay, let any readers who come to this site and read the comments, probably a rare event, I only just today saw your comments, and Rooser girl’s before it, see you in all of your glory.

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